• 01:15 The Realities of Being a Therapist
  • 03:24 Embracing the Challenges and Opportunities
  • 03:50 The Role of the Therapist as a Leader
  • 05:25 Navigating Ambiguity and Stress
  • 07:40 The Emotional Toll and Environmental Stressors
  • 11:33 Balancing Self-Care and Professional Growth
  • 13:40 The Mission to Support Fellow Therapists
  • 17:09 Shifting Mindsets for Joy and Resilience
  • 24:55 The Ripple Effect of Therapeutic Work
  • 27:08 Resources for Therapists

Being a Therapist: The Struggle is Real

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Being a Therapist: The Struggle is Real

Listen up, fellow therapists: You are a hero. Yes you. Even if you don’t think of yourself that way, I do. 

Let’s review: After much deliberation and soul-searching into your own values and highest calling, you decided to devote your career to being of service to others in the deepest and most meaningful way possible. You spent so many years learning how to help the deepest wounds. You dare to walk into the darkness and connect with someone who’s stuck there, and can’t find their own way out. You bravely face the horrors of trauma alongside your clients in order to right the wrongs. You sit with people who are going through the hardest moments of their lives, with compassion. You’ve built relationships with people who have never before experienced the kind of love, support, or emotional safety that you can provide.

If I was in charge, you’d be covered in medals of honor for everything you’ve done. All the small moments that nobody else knows about besides you and your client, all the times you were brave and wise, and all the love you’ve given that has healed minds, hearts, and souls.

It’s also true that all this loving and courage and giving can take a huge toll on us. It will break your heart, vicariously traumatize you, and deplete you unless YOU have support and nurturing, too. Therapists who don’t get the care they need will often withdraw emotionally, becoming burned out, hardened (understandably), and often start to wonder if this career path is sustainable for them long term. I get it: the struggle is so real.

And I’m here to meet you in it. I want you to feel seen, and understood for a change. Your experience is important. It’s valid, and it matters. 

If you’ve ever found yourself thinking or uttering the words “I hate being a therapist,” you’re not alone. There can be a lot of shame in acknowledging to yourself just how hard this is. It brings up feelings for us, of failure, or comparison. Also of grief: After putting so much into developing a career as a therapist only to get ground up by it, and feel like you can’t go on is heartbreaking. The journey of a mental health professional is undoubtedly filled with emotional highs and lows. That’s why we’re going to be diving deep into the real challenges therapists face, because acknowledging the struggle is the first step towards positive change. But whether you have days where you hate being a therapist, or if you are generally in love with our shared profession (as you deserve to feel!): you need support.

We’ve chosen a career path that can be uniquely challenging, emotionally, mentally, and even spiritually. Therapists can absolutely flourish and thrive, but unless we are being mindful and intentional about the way we manage our work, it can take a very real toll on us. I have met so many fellow clinicians who feel that their personal lives are suffering, and that their own wellbeing is being sacrificed on the alter of caring for others.

That’s not sustainable, and it’s not okay. It’s also not the way it has to be. I’ve been in this field now for the better part of two decades, and have gone through my fair share of all the hard things: vicarious trauma, burnout, isolation, overwhelm, and that terrible feeling that we all get when we’re responsible for helping someone and the path forward is unclear — even to us, their guide. 

As a lifelong learner and growth promoter, I’ve dedicated my career to not just helping clients heal and grow… I’m here to help therapists flourish and thrive. That’s what my practice, Growing Self, is all about. It’s a sanctuary, and a nurturing supportive place for clinicians to be well and proper. I built this because I believe with all my heart and soul that in order to be a force of positive change in the world, we therapists need to be happy and healthy. If we’re heartbroken, and running on fumes, we’re no use to anyone.

After much personal reflection, I decided to bring the nurturing energy of Growing Self out into the world by launching a new podcast, “Love, Happiness, and Success For Therapists” that’s all about #therapistlife, and here to support you. Each week I’m bringing you ideas, growth opportunities, and insights that will help you grow and prosper, not despite being in a challenging profession — but because of it.

That’s the often overlooked gift of this journey we’re on together. Yes, being a therapist can be a dirty job and it comes with completely unique occupational hazards. At the same time, there’s no other career that will grow YOU the way being a therapist will. Every day, every session brings us new insights into our own biases, blindspots, pain points, belief systems, and growth needs. We are doing the work right alongside our clients (whether they know it or not) and I hope that this space can be a place that supports you on this grand adventure of personal and professional growth. 

I’m so pleased you have found me, and I sincerely hope that we can stay connected! Start by subscribing to Love, Happiness, and Success For Therapists on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Next, connect with me on Linkedin, Facebook and Instagram. I’ll be there with support and encouragement for you! 

Here’s episode number 1! If you’re in that super-dark “I think I hate being a therapist” space (and we’ve all been there), this one’s for you…

Why You Hate Being a Therapist (And What to Do About It)

#1: Emotional Intensity + Ambiguity = Burnout

Being a therapist is energetically and emotionally intense. Day in and day out, you find yourself sitting with very intense emotional situations and in the role of a leader on the journey of growth, navigating through ambiguous situations and carrying the weight of your clients’ expectations. It’s a unique position where despite being seen as the guide, you may often feel overwhelmed and lost. Being the conscientious and caring person you are, that can make you feel like you’re letting your clients down, and it can make you doubt yourself. It can be hard to set boundaries between your therapy sessions and your personal life, and the emotional drain can be intense. Do that 8+ times a day, especially with high-need clients, and you begin to dread the next session. It starts to feel like waves of despair are crashing over your head, and you’re sinking. 

#2: Environmental Stressors + Lack of Support = Burnout

Therapists are naturally caring individuals, but the environments they work in can sometimes be less than nurturing. Toxic agencies, low pay, and excessive workload are common issues. While the option of private practice offers an attractive level of autonomy, it also brings with it a new set of challenges, such as isolation and the need to constantly be managing business-related tasks, like marketing, scheduling clients, and navigating insurance billing. And, of course, those administrative hours aren’t paid. [Recommended reading on this topic: Should you start a private practice?]

Another professional hazard for therapists is the exposure to the trauma of others, and feeling alone in the midst of it. It’s a heavy burden to carry, and without proper support and self-care, it’s easy to feel drained or even vicariously traumatized, with nothing left for yourself, let alone your clients.

The difficult trade-offs that therapists have to make when choosing a workplace was one of my motivations for starting Growing Self. I knew that by giving talented clinicians group private practice opportunities with high-functioning, motivated clients, in a setting where the caseloads are reasonable and the environment supportive, I could help keep more therapists in this profession, and doing their best work.

Now What? The Path Forward 

Even if you’re at that place where you’re saying, “I hate being a therapist,” there’s hope. I’m here to tell you that things can get better. First, let’s acknowledge that you got into this line of work for a reason. Despite the undeniable challenges, being a therapist is a career path with the potential for immense growth, love, happiness, and success. The key is to find ways to navigate the challenges while holding on to the rewarding aspects of the work. 

Where to begin? Start by getting insight into yourself. There are domains of wellbeing for therapists, and if any one of them are suffering you’re not going to have a good time. Even if you keep going, by virtue of your natural strengths, and even if you have domains that are working, if all the pillars aren’t there, it will catch up to you sooner or later. What are those pillars? How do you know what your strengths are, or where you need to grow as a therapist? Start by taking my “flourish and thrive for therapists” assessment. It will give you insight into yourself, and create direction for you to make positive changes that will help you, well, flourish and thrive!

Introducing Love, Happiness, and Success for Therapists

I understand that the struggle is real. And that’s why I created a new podcast aimed at offering support, advice, and a sense of community for therapists going through tough times. As the founder of Growing Self Counseling and Coaching, and the long-time host of the Love, Happiness and Success podcast (for civilians), I think it’s time that we had a community to focus on our own growth and healing. Because we need it!

In every episode, I want to delve into the real issues, discuss strategies for growth and satisfaction, and highlight stories of success and transformation from therapists like YOU.

If you’ve ever felt like saying “I hate being a therapist,” you are not alone. And, there are ways to navigate these challenges and find joy and fulfillment in your career. Let’s create a supportive community. Please connect with me on LinkedIn, because we’re in this together.

If you’re feeling ready to explore even more, check out my free resource: The Licensed Certified Coach 2-Part Video Training: “The Ultimate Guide”. This training is designed to help you get clear on your professional path and explore whether coaching could be a fulfilling addition to your career. 

To the light,

Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby 

P.S. — You can find more articles, videos, and podcast episodes to support your growth and wellness as a therapist on my “Love Happiness and Success for Therapists” blog home page. I hope you’ll check it out.

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Lisa Marie Bobby: If you’re a therapist like me, having really devoted your life, your career to the growth and healing of other people, you know that this is a rewarding profession and it’s also a challenging one. And I’m Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby. I’m the founder of Growing Self Counseling and Coaching, and I’m the longtime host of the Love, Happiness, and Success podcast, which is a podcast that I developed for people who are seeking growth, love, happiness, and success as civilians, right?

And over the years I have for the course of my own career and with my group practice. Really become increasingly focused and committed to the growth, the love, the happiness and success of therapists. So I decided to launch this new podcast, which is devoted to our growth and wellbeing.

And every week I’m going to be right here with you talking about, hopefully the topics that are important to you that help you in your career as a therapist so that you can learn and grow and flourish and thrive in our shared profession. So today, I thought we could just launch this party by talking about some of the realities that I think aren’t often recognized by people who don’t really understand what our lives and careers are like.

And I know that you know that as a therapist As rewarding as this career is, it comes with a very unique set of challenges and opportunities to learn about ourselves and grow right alongside the clients that we seek to serve. And first I just wanted to have a conversation about the gritty side of this.

I don’t know if you’ve ever had this experience, but when I tell people what I do for a living, I usually get one of two responses. They’re either like, Oh my gosh, that’s so cool. You get to help people. that’s just the most amazing thing. You’re great. Or it’s. Oh, my gosh, I don’t know how you can do that.

I could never survive in that kind of career. And I think that in some ways the world sees and broad strokes, the things that we struggle with, but I think don’t really understand unless you’ve done this type of work as a career about the energetic and emotionally challenging parts of this very intense work.

And yeah. The toll that it can take on us personally, but also the opportunities that it brings us personally, if we’re approaching this from a holistic framework where, yes, we are here to help others. We’re here to serve. By paying attention to what’s coming up for us along the way, making our needs, rights, and feelings as important as anybody else’s in this equation, it really opens the door to not just professional growth, but enormous personal growth that impacts our lives in positive ways just enormously.

And. I think at the very least embracing this career path long term requires certain things of us. It requires self-awareness, it requires resilience. It demands our own internal growth and movement towards becoming more emotionally healthy, emotionally mature people. And that is truly commendable.

And, one of the hidden reasons that I think therapists are, quite frankly, vulnerable to burnout can struggle sometimes in this profession is that as the therapist, you are in a very real way, the leader. The guide, the expert, right? And we’re also socialized out of thinking of ourselves as experts or coming across that way to clients.

And of course. We can never tell people what to do. Our clients are always the true expert on their own lives, right? And it is also true that our clients come to us in these moments of vulnerability because they are looking for answers. They need support. They need understanding, but they also need guidance.

They. don’t know how to help themselves. I’m sure they’ve tried everything they know how to do by the time they darken our door. And so they really are seeking that leadership that for you to be a process guide. And this is a position of great responsibility, right? When somebody is looking to you to help them to the other side or to grow, to heal.

And the other piece of this is that first of all, we, Aren’t socialized to feel that we have the right to step into the space and really be the guides in some ways that our clients are hoping we will be for them. And this work is also hard because it’s frequently very ambiguous and it’s also largely outside of our control.

The human mind is so complex. There’s no one size fits all solutions in therapy. The same things that work for one client will not work for another. We need to adjust our approach. And it’s also true that there are so many different ways this could go. There are So many different things you could say in a session or ways to organize the work with your clients.

And because there are so many different ways and there’s no precise if this, then that kind of a roadmap, we’re always just doing the best we can with what we have in the moment. And sometimes that winds up being the right thing. Sometimes it winds up being that wrong thing, whatever that means.

We’re always left to question like, Is this the right thing for this person? And without that certainty, that in itself can create a lot of stress, especially when people are looking to you to help them and to lead them. And then of course, at the end of the day, it’s not even our work to do, right?

Even if we are showing up and really from our side of the equation, doing everything within our power to help other people heal and grow and have better relationships and feel better about themselves and their lives. We cannot do the work for them and that in itself can also create a different kind of stress when you care so much about the people that you’re working with and seeing them continue to struggle and suffer and care about them, worry about them and being helpless in some ways, because at the end of the day, they are the ones that will have to follow through.

And do the internal work that will really help them. And that can be difficult to, feeling helpless, feeling somewhat powerless in a situation where people are looking to you for leadership. So I just wanted to give voice to these realities because I don’t really hear them discussed anywhere else.

And I think they need to be part of the conversation. And, those are only some of the stressors that we as therapists have to deal with, right? Beyond the emotional intensity of the whole, dynamic that I just described, we’re also often confronted with being the person who is receiving some stories life experiences, people who have gone through.

Genuinely horrible things and to be connected with them empathetically and emotionally as they recount those experiences can be not just, wrenching can be actually traumatic for us to Even to connect energetically with somebody who is dealing with terrible PTSD or very intense Depression that they just can’t see their way out of or even really intense anxiety.

When you are connected emotionally to somebody who is in that space, it’s like we need to step into that circle with them and to a degree, feel what they feel. See the world from their oftentimes very dark filter in order to be able to understand them accurately and know what they’re going through so that we can help them in a meaningful way.

But even beyond that, environmental stressors can add to this challenge. I think people who are drawn to this profession are naturally very caring, very empathetic. And there are different work environments where you can find therapists fighting the good fight. And some of these are very positive environments that are affirming, hopeful, loving towards clients.

Also towards clinicians, and there are some that are not there are some agencies by virtue of their business model or their leadership or just, everybody in the system is traumatized can become quite toxic. Sometimes community mental health agencies or other agencies can get that way.

Sometimes private practices can be just as bad though. Many people in our shared profession are dealing with. All the, all of the above, plus, toxic work environments, very stressful work environments, and also the financial strain of doing this in the context, oftentimes of low pay, a very high workload and even for those who try to escape some of that by pursuing a private practice experience, that can be exceptionally complex and much more work than people have.

Realized, going into it cause it’s not just being a therapist now it’s running a business in being able to do things and just the nuts and bolts of the administrative work and all the different things to make a business run that, 10 X’s the amount of work involved in just showing up and seeing a client.

The struggle is real. And again, I wanted to articulate all of this for your benefit, for our benefit, because there are hidden stressors that can be so real. And can really take a toll on us mentally, emotionally, can also creep into our personal lives in very real ways that rob us of the joy that we can have in this profession.

And because to be clear, this profession can be incredibly joyful and meaningful and rewarding. It can also be fun, right? And, to be able to, I think, acknowledge the darkness and the pain points in a clear and rational way can also, I think, help us begin to develop some of the self awareness and clarity that we need in order to make some shifts.

It’s both outside of ourselves, but also many times within ourselves to get ourselves back in alignment so that we are also in a good place because, we cannot be of service to other people unless we’re taking care of ourselves truly. And in this profession, Because of how challenging it is, I believe that we need to work extra hard to take care of ourselves in a very intentional way if we want to have a positive long term career as therapists.

Because if we don’t Not only will you be depleted, don’t have anything to give your clients, you get burnt out, you get crispy, right? But the people around us in our personal lives can suffer too. This is a very delicate balance, like taking care of other people, also taking care of ourselves. And I think it’s a struggle that many of us know all too well.

That’s the daily event, but again, while we have to acknowledge the hardships, I do also want to shine a light on the immense. opportunities for growth, love, happiness, and success that comes from being a therapist. This career can not only be incredibly rewarding, it also pulls from us this need to enter into a journey, truly, of continuous learning, growing, self development, finding our own Strength and building up ourselves, developing ourselves so that we can have a profoundly positive impact on the lives of others while also maintaining our own wellbeing.

So how do we navigate this challenging, but very rewarding career path? How do we grow as therapists thrive in our work, feel good about the difference that we’re making while managing some of the realities, the darkness that I was always creeping in. And that is what this podcast is all about.

When I first began in my career, I was a solo practitioner and worked by myself for seven, eight years to get that up and running. And it was so challenging. It was lonely, honestly, it was hard. And then naturally and organically it began evolving into a group private practice experience.

I didn’t even pursue it that honestly, intentionally, just people started showing up, but just felt like there was flow around it. And. Um, that’s really when things shifted for me energetically because at that time my mission became more than just helping people grow and create love, happiness and success through counseling and coaching.

That’s certainly, what we do. And there was also another mission that started to emerge from me, which is really around How do I nurture, support, develop, encourage challenge them sometimes to grow in really positive ways, help them develop for their benefit so They can have nice lives and enjoy their careers and also not abandon the profession, right?

That is very real. Many therapists get to a certain point in their career and are like, I don’t want to do this anymore because of how hard it is. And also because they haven’t gotten the kind of support that we’re talking about today. so then my mission really shifted into helping therapists, that.

became the central thing because I genuinely believe that if therapists are in a good place, not mentally, emotionally, relationally, but also really invested in their own professional development are excited about learning and growing pursuing excellence. In our profession and engaging in all the right things, case consultations, seeking feedback, learning how to handle things differently, taking challenging situations with clients.

What happened here? What can I learn from this? it takes a collective Experience in order to be able to do that. And also, I think a really emotionally safe environment where it’s absolutely okay to use, all experiences, even difficult ones as opportunities for meaningful growth and learning, but also as opportunities to work on our self of therapist issues and explore that intersection of, where we are interacting with our clients and how we’re feeling there.

This person is triggering me. Why is that? Or I’m feeling anxious about this situation. What is that about? Or I feel like I can’t bring this up. What is going on there? We have to have that. And I genuinely believe that for me, by pursuing those things in my practice, that then translates into offering the best of the best kinds of transformational experiences for clients because we have therapists who are really, Fully actualized and continually growing and learning and engaged, right?

So hence, this podcast, this is me wanting to bring some of this energy to you, right? Because again, you need it. We all do. And so what I can offer you here today, and we’re going to be coming back and talking about this stuff every week, for today. The one thing that I would like to share is that one of the first, biggest, most important steps in reclaiming our joy in this shared profession and really, having it work for us just as hard as we work for it and for others is Shifting our mindset and what that involves, I think, is releasing perfectionism, releasing shame, and in a healthy way, acknowledging the challenges that we have to deal with, but also acknowledging our own power and our own resilience and our own opportunities to create a different future.

Experience an outcome for ourselves and from shifting into this mindset, that’s when we can begin taking action on our own behalf, be it, finding our own support networks or seeking supervision or consultation, or even just a simple reminder that you actually have to take care of yourself like more than you would in a different profession.

Probably it’s very real and having to make that a priority. But also the mindset, I think, extends into recognizing and embracing all of the growth opportunities that are all around us in this profession. And sometimes it’s just a matter of opening ourselves up to them, honestly, whether it’s through continuing education or.

peer groups, or even personal therapy, right? There are countless ways to expand our skills, to deepen our understanding, and not just of our clients, but every day, every session we have, it gives me an opportunity to learn something about myself too, right? Alongside that of my clients, it’s that parallel process, right?

And I think when it comes to really feeling good about our work and, really having a sense of appreciation for the difference that we can make in the lives of those who really value us. It’s all about advocating for ourselves and having a healthy, respect and compassion for things like our own boundaries, that it’s okay for us to set limits and to have needs.

And sometimes that means, moving ourselves into a better situation or saying no to certain kinds of clients or even recognizing when our own personal evolution has maybe. carried us, away from where we started. Perhaps you began this career, with a heart for working with a specific client population or presenting issue or even a therapeutic modality and then get 10 years in and say, I’m not sure that’s who I am anymore and that’s okay.

That’s part of the growth work that we always need to be doing as we move forward. So it’s a journey. It’s one that we’re all on together. And again, that’s what this podcast is going to be all about. It’s creating a space for honest conversations, shared experiences, collective growth. In my experience in my practice growing self, I think therapists have a natural, proclivity

Desire, I think, to support each other, to learn from each other, to thrive together. and I hope that we can do that here, truly. So all of you therapists out there, know that your work is valued. Your struggles are seen. You are not alone. You have a community that understands that emphasizes and that is cheering you on every step of the way.

I hope that you have some spaces like that already in your life. If you don’t, I’m glad we’re here connecting today and you are invited to be part of this community that I hope can grow around, this message, this podcast. And, hey, if you happen to be listening to this and you’re not a therapist, but have a therapist that you know and care about in your life, they are doing challenging heart centered work.

They’re making a difference and can sometimes be sacrificing quite a bit personally to make that happen. So send them a quick thank you note. Just let them know that you think they’re amazing because again, a lot of the work that we do, The outcome of it isn’t known. You can work with clients for years and they might make incremental growth, but it feels like throwing bottles in the ocean.

And so if you’ve had a therapist that you’ve had a relationship with, maybe at the time it was more like planting seeds and you weren’t really ready to make use of everything that you were learning about. through that work, but then five, 10 years later, it all clicked into place.

I bet they’d love to know about that. So thank you on behalf of them for sending that thank you note. And.

that’s also one of the big things that we’re going to be talking about here too is how to find the joy, how to celebrate successes, even if you’re not always getting immediate feedback about the outcomes of your work from other people, but really developing the ability to gain appreciation and receive the admiration for yourself so that you can be filling your own cup, maintaining your own emotional equilibrium, and also creating spaces where you are allowing your cup to be filled up by others.

And just that mindset shift that we talked about, recognizing that this is a need, recognizing what the challenges are. I think the other side of this coin is also the recognition of the very real need for self awareness in this too, understanding our own triggers.

Understanding or creating our own boundaries, understanding when we don’t have boundaries. Recognizing when we need to take a step back, take care of ourselves. This is all going back to strengthening our own foundation so that we can continue to pour into other people without depleting ourselves.

Finding a tribe, connecting with other therapists. Let’s go

from talking about the encouragement of a past client to get in touch with their therapist and told them that it worked for them. So from that segment, then let’s go here.

And whether or not you get a thank you note from a former client or from, somebody that you know in your personal life who admires and respects everything that you’re doing. The other thing that I hope we’re doing together on this podcast is really illuminating, highlighting and celebrating all of your successes, no matter how small they seem.

so that you can really, appreciate and have compassion and admiration for yourself, that self recognition, self validation is part of being able, to fill our own cups. Particularly when we’re doing work where the full outcome of what we do, may never actually be known to us, but it’s true.

Every breakthrough aha moment, every moment of connection of authenticity. every time we help a client find clarity or peace, these are moments I think that make it all worth it. And another thing that I would like to leave you with is just the acknowledgement and appreciation of how powerful your work really can be.

we learn about intergenerational trauma, I’ve chosen to focus on intergenerational growth and healing when we are able to help an individual grow and become more. Emotionally healthy, emotionally stable, and develop the ability to have a healthier relationship or a more stable career through career counseling, couples therapy.

Certainly we’re helping that individual in the moment we’re helping a couple perhaps, but I always think about what will now be possible going far into the future because of the growth work we help that person do. Cause it’s not just for them, born into this family or born of this parent is now set up to have a much more stable, emotionally safe life where they are much more likely to get their needs met and therefore will grow into whole, healthy, self actualized, happy people to the degree that they might not have done had they not been born to parents who received the benefit of our services.

And then those children will go on to have healthier, happier, more stable relationships and create a nurturing family environment for the kids that come next. I want you to think about that too, that yes, we can have small victories in our day to day work with clients, but to really think about how that ripples forward through not just decades, but generations.

The true impact of our work, I don’t think we’ll ever be known the side of heaven. And I just wanted to leave you with that idea, particularly if you are in a difficult situation right now, if you’re in a toxic agency environment or dealing with a very difficult caseload or feeling burnt out or traumatized, I just wanted to offer you that today.

That’s an idea that has been healing and hopeful for me. And I hope it lands the same way with you. And thank you for spending this time with me. my intention again is make this a habit and be back in touch with you every week. We’ll be talking about different kinds of issues that you may be facing.

Client challenges, self therapist challenges, growth opportunities. ethical conundrums, right? We’re going to unpack it all. and this is for you. I have even more for you. on my website, growingself. com. If you come there and go forward slash therapist. You’ll find a webpage that I put together for you with all kinds of resources.

You’ll find episodes of this podcast plus other little pieces of, short advice things that I’ve put together for you. You’ll also find articles. on a bunch of different topics, related to things that we’re talking about on the show. You will also find a self assessment. I’m calling it, how to flourish and thrive as a therapist, the quiz.

And by taking this totally free, you can get visibility into what is working well for you in this career versus what are the areas and growth opportunities that if you invested some time and energy into would really, start to replenish you and bring your joy back in this profession. So when it might be self care, it might be, evaluating, different career paths.

It might be professional development opportunities might be self therapist stuff, but I think there’s a lot of value in getting clarity to self awareness and almost like triaging it. Because for example, If you are really struggling to set boundaries, if self care is really hard, it doesn’t make sense for you to take another professional training right now that might just contribute to feelings of overwhelm and depletion.

It’s important for you to honor what you need to do first for yourself. So by taking this assessment, you’ll get some visibility into that. You’ll get recommendations and some access to other resources that I put together for you. So again, all there for you. Thank you for being here with me today and thank you for joining this community.

Come to the growingself. com forward slash therapists for more. And of course, feel free to join the conversation if you want to. Talk more about this or check in with me or even offer, ideas or questions like, Hey Lisa, can you talk about maybe this situation or upcoming podcast? I would love to hear about all of that.

Again, you can come to growingself. com. You can send an email. Hello at growingself. com. You can also find me on Instagram. Facebook, LinkedIn. And I have a client facing social media pages that are like, at Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby on Instagram. So don’t go to that one. Come to the one that I have that is just for you.

So you’ll look for growing self. I think it’s growing underscore self. on Instagram and probably the same on Facebook and also on LinkedIn. So the things that I have available for you are going to be on those accounts. We’re going to keep our stuff for us therapists. just a little bit separate.

But anyway, I hope that you find it a welcoming and affirming space. And again, I’m just so grateful that you spent this time with me today. So I’ll be back in touch next time with another episode of growth, love, happiness, and success for therapists. And we’ll keep the conversation going. Thank you.

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