• 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome: Dr. David Spiegel
  • 02:00 What Hypnosis Really Is (and Isn’t)
  • 07:30 How Hypnosis Rewires the Brain and Reduces Pain
  • 13:00 Self-Hypnosis for Smoking Cessation and Habit Change
  • 20:00 Hypnosis vs. Meditation
  • 26:00 The Reveri Self-Hypnosis App
  • 33:00 Brain Science Behind Hypnosis
  • 38:00 Using Hypnosis for Anxiety, Phobias, and Pain
  • 47:00 Final Thoughts and Dr. Spiegel’s Mission

The Life-Changing Power of Self-Hypnosis with Dr. David Spiegel

The Life-Changing Power of Self-Hypnosis with Dr. David Spiegel

Have you ever had that maddening experience of knowing exactly what you want to do — eat healthier, quit smoking, get more sleep, be more present — and then watching yourself… not do it? You’re not alone. That gap between clarity and action is one of the most frustrating things about being human.

That’s why I was so excited to sit down with Dr. David Spiegel, a world-renowned researcher on self-hypnosis and founder of the Reveri self-hypnosis app. His decades of clinical work show that hypnosis isn’t stage magic. It’s a natural, focused state of attention that helps people override old patterns, quiet their inner critic, and unlock new possibilities for healing and growth.

What Self-Hypnosis Really Is (and Isn’t)

When you think of hypnosis, you might picture someone clucking like a chicken on stage. But that’s entertainment, not therapy. As Dr. David Spiegel explains, self-hypnosis is much closer to a flow state or even a waking dream. It’s that moment when you’re so absorbed in a movie that you forget you’re watching it — your brain is engaged in a way that bypasses criticism and mental roadblocks.

That’s because the conscious mind can only take us so far. Real transformation often happens deeper, in the subconscious.

In this state, you can “try on” being different. You can imagine living without pain, feeling calm on a flight, or putting cigarettes down for good. And here’s the fascinating part: your brain and body respond as if that imagined reality were true, rewiring neural pathways and shifting perception.

The Science Behind Self-Hypnosis

This isn’t just theory. Brain imaging studies show that self-hypnosis changes activity in key areas:

  • The salience network, which calms the constant scanning for threats.
  • The insula, which regulates the mind-body connection and physical responses.
  • The default mode network, the part of your brain that gets stuck on self-critical loops.

When these systems reset, you can turn down pain, ease anxiety, and loosen the grip of habits that once felt unshakable.

Dr. David Spiegel has seen this throughout his career — from women with advanced breast cancer reducing pain without heavy medication, to people with flying phobias stepping onto planes with confidence, to smokers quitting overnight.

Why Self-Hypnosis Works When Insight Doesn’t

One of Dr. Spiegel’s key insights is that all hypnosis is self-hypnosis. It’s not about someone else putting a spell on you. It’s about learning a skill — how to intentionally access this state, connect with your values, and use it to create real change.

That’s also why some people’s one-off experiences with hypnosis don’t last. Without learning self-hypnosis, the effect fades. With the right guidance, though, it becomes a resource you can return to anytime you need it.

Unlike meditation, which emphasizes being, self-hypnosis emphasizes doing. You’re not just sitting with your thoughts — you’re actively using imagination and focused attention to move toward a specific goal.

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Making Self-Hypnosis Accessible with the Reveri App

For years, the biggest challenge was access. Not everyone could find a trained clinician, and too many misconceptions kept hypnosis from being taken seriously. That’s why Dr. David Spiegel developed the Reveri self-hypnosis app.

Reveri puts decades of research into your pocket. It starts with a quick test to measure hypnotizability, then tailors interactive sessions for sleep, stress, pain, smoking, eating, and more. With over a million downloads, the app shows how technology can deliver powerful tools once locked away in clinical settings.

During our conversation, I even tried a short guided session focused on breaking the habit of compulsive phone checking. It was simple, calming, and surprisingly effective. I’d love for you to try it too — you can explore Reveri at reveri.com.

Reflect and Apply

As you reflect on Dr. Spiegel’s work, consider:

  • Where do you notice the biggest gap between what you know you want and what you actually do?
  • What might shift if you could quiet your inner critic and fully imagine a different way of being?
  • How could you practice treating your body and mind with the same care you’d give someone you love?

Next Steps

If this conversation sparked curiosity, here are a few ways to continue:

And if you have questions or ideas for a future episode, I’d love to hear from you. Let’s talk!

xoxo,
Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

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Resources:
Jiang, H., White, M. P., Greicius, M. D., Waelde, L. C., & Spiegel, D. (2017). Brain activity and functional connectivity associated with hypnosis. Cerebral Cortex, 27(8), 4083–4093. https://doi.org/10.1093/cercor/bhw220 

Faerman, A., & Spiegel, D. (2021). Shared cognitive mechanisms of hypnotizability with executive functioning and information salience. Scientific Reports, 11(1), 5392. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-021-84954-8 

Jensen, M. P., Barber, J., Romano, J. M., Hanley, M. A., Raichle, K., Molton, I., Engel, J. M., Osborne, T. L., Stoelb, B. L., & Cardenas, D. D. (2009). Effects of self-hypnosis training and EMG biofeedback on pain intensity in persons with spinal cord injury. International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis, 57(3), 239–268. https://doi.org/10.1080/00207140902881007

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